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	<title>Comments on: What do you want *your* SCORM to do?</title>
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		<title>By: Jason Priem</title>
		<link>http://pipwerks.com/journal/2008/06/22/what-do-you-want-your-scorm-to-do/#comment-675</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Priem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 16:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said!  As a newcomer to SCORM, I've been somewhat dismayed to discover just some of the needless complexity you discuss (and very pleased to see some to the great code on your site).  Seems to me that SCORM has a classic case of the gallopin' feature bloats.

Separating things out into modules would, I think, be the perfect way to handle this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said!  As a newcomer to SCORM, I&#8217;ve been somewhat dismayed to discover just some of the needless complexity you discuss (and very pleased to see some to the great code on your site).  Seems to me that SCORM has a classic case of the gallopin&#8217; feature bloats.</p>
<p>Separating things out into modules would, I think, be the perfect way to handle this.</p>
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		<title>By: ethan</title>
		<link>http://pipwerks.com/journal/2008/06/22/what-do-you-want-your-scorm-to-do/#comment-652</link>
		<dc:creator>ethan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AMEN! We have a full actionscript dot syntax in our runtime-makes it as easy as instantiating a new object like new Array(). Even with that I never use all of it.  Our course authoring tool also builds manifests and i find myself always trying to thin the file out-most of our customers don't want sequencing, they hate LMS provided TOC's, i keep metadata to almost nothing, my clients never do any kind of sco reuse via the manifest, most want  one sco for the whole course and build an internal navigation. It doesn't help that every LMS seems to deal with sequencing rules differently.

I'd also like to have altenative api's rather than just javascript, i'd rather use a direct web service call from flash rather than going via external interface.

Interactions/objectives must be simplified maybe have a new test object which would allow for multiple test scores in one sco.

Suspend data needs to be bigger or other spaces made for custom stuff.

Rewrite sequencing and navigation to make it simple-and get a better certification process so all lms's can interpret the same.

Also their needs to be some kind of api that allows the course to define the look and feel of how the lms displays. My clients hate how it's very jarring to go from sco-to-TOC-to-sco. They want visual cohesiveness.  So maybe a way were the sco can consume other info from the lms like the activity tree(and it's status) etc and be able to display it. 

And they want the content to be intelligent on what it is playing on-ie phones.

The sharable thing honestly needs to be re-thought as in the industries i've worked in for the past 10 years it's not being used-that says something and makes me wonder about the use of an imsmanifest. Private industry has not embraced this idea the way academia has.

Another thing that needs to be looked at is a way to update/add to certification courses that then allow formally completed users to come back and complete the new parts(including guidelines for how LMS's will deal with it when the course is updated). They hate having 15 update courses every year and.  Maybe SCORM needs to define a curriculum standard as well.

I'm bias as a content developer but I see a lot of issues with LMS's doing just enough to get by with SCORM or advertising incompatibilities as"Mis-Features", like it's a benefit. That rub has a lot to do with the LMS's proprietary courseware and runtime vs the scorm support they tacked on. I'm not sure that LETSI can fix that-but it does affect the reputation of SCORM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AMEN! We have a full actionscript dot syntax in our runtime-makes it as easy as instantiating a new object like new Array(). Even with that I never use all of it.  Our course authoring tool also builds manifests and i find myself always trying to thin the file out-most of our customers don&#8217;t want sequencing, they hate LMS provided TOC&#8217;s, i keep metadata to almost nothing, my clients never do any kind of sco reuse via the manifest, most want  one sco for the whole course and build an internal navigation. It doesn&#8217;t help that every LMS seems to deal with sequencing rules differently.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also like to have altenative api&#8217;s rather than just javascript, i&#8217;d rather use a direct web service call from flash rather than going via external interface.</p>
<p>Interactions/objectives must be simplified maybe have a new test object which would allow for multiple test scores in one sco.</p>
<p>Suspend data needs to be bigger or other spaces made for custom stuff.</p>
<p>Rewrite sequencing and navigation to make it simple-and get a better certification process so all lms&#8217;s can interpret the same.</p>
<p>Also their needs to be some kind of api that allows the course to define the look and feel of how the lms displays. My clients hate how it&#8217;s very jarring to go from sco-to-TOC-to-sco. They want visual cohesiveness.  So maybe a way were the sco can consume other info from the lms like the activity tree(and it&#8217;s status) etc and be able to display it. </p>
<p>And they want the content to be intelligent on what it is playing on-ie phones.</p>
<p>The sharable thing honestly needs to be re-thought as in the industries i&#8217;ve worked in for the past 10 years it&#8217;s not being used-that says something and makes me wonder about the use of an imsmanifest. Private industry has not embraced this idea the way academia has.</p>
<p>Another thing that needs to be looked at is a way to update/add to certification courses that then allow formally completed users to come back and complete the new parts(including guidelines for how LMS&#8217;s will deal with it when the course is updated). They hate having 15 update courses every year and.  Maybe SCORM needs to define a curriculum standard as well.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m bias as a content developer but I see a lot of issues with LMS&#8217;s doing just enough to get by with SCORM or advertising incompatibilities as&#8221;Mis-Features&#8221;, like it&#8217;s a benefit. That rub has a lot to do with the LMS&#8217;s proprietary courseware and runtime vs the scorm support they tacked on. I&#8217;m not sure that LETSI can fix that-but it does affect the reputation of SCORM.</p>
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		<title>By: Omid</title>
		<link>http://pipwerks.com/journal/2008/06/22/what-do-you-want-your-scorm-to-do/#comment-651</link>
		<dc:creator>Omid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I`m using scorm to provide my educational content but I`m not familiar with scorm mechanism .I think now SCORM really help me to categorize my courses in short time but there is some little problem for me like below description:
folder created via scorm will rename without any specific rule and make tracking ability difficult to me ,
I like my scorms would have a mechanism to add a security capability to my flash movies . for example if user try to view flash movie (swf file) directly (without using scorm structured mechanism) then related movie stop automatically ,
Of course I`m not advanced with scorm structure but I just told my desire ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I`m using scorm to provide my educational content but I`m not familiar with scorm mechanism .I think now SCORM really help me to categorize my courses in short time but there is some little problem for me like below description:<br />
folder created via scorm will rename without any specific rule and make tracking ability difficult to me ,<br />
I like my scorms would have a mechanism to add a security capability to my flash movies . for example if user try to view flash movie (swf file) directly (without using scorm structured mechanism) then related movie stop automatically ,<br />
Of course I`m not advanced with scorm structure but I just told my desire <img src='http://pipwerks.com/journal/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: ian kennedy</title>
		<link>http://pipwerks.com/journal/2008/06/22/what-do-you-want-your-scorm-to-do/#comment-650</link>
		<dc:creator>ian kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, yes, and yes.

for the past four years i have build all of our courses in flash and have used only a handful of cmi elements (core.lesson_status, core.lesson_status, core.score.raw, and core.student_name if i'm feeling fancy).

i so despise packaging courses for the lms that in the past three years i have built four tools to package courses for us - first in php, then in rails, then as a script 'wizard' with a minimal gui, and finally as a full-fledged cocoa app. and with each of those tools, i have done my best to make the imsmanifest as *minimal* as possible.

i've been following your blog and your work for some time now, and i sincerely appreciate both your opinions and code. thanks and keep it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, yes, and yes.</p>
<p>for the past four years i have build all of our courses in flash and have used only a handful of cmi elements (core.lesson_status, core.lesson_status, core.score.raw, and core.student_name if i&#8217;m feeling fancy).</p>
<p>i so despise packaging courses for the lms that in the past three years i have built four tools to package courses for us - first in php, then in rails, then as a script &#8216;wizard&#8217; with a minimal gui, and finally as a full-fledged cocoa app. and with each of those tools, i have done my best to make the imsmanifest as *minimal* as possible.</p>
<p>i&#8217;ve been following your blog and your work for some time now, and i sincerely appreciate both your opinions and code. thanks and keep it up.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://pipwerks.com/journal/2008/06/22/what-do-you-want-your-scorm-to-do/#comment-649</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully, you will take advantage of the LETSI solicitation for whitepapers and get involved.  It will only be as good a spec as the support it receives.  It will be a shame if people like you only participate after it's done.  At that point it's too late to incorporate what you need it to support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully, you will take advantage of the LETSI solicitation for whitepapers and get involved.  It will only be as good a spec as the support it receives.  It will be a shame if people like you only participate after it&#8217;s done.  At that point it&#8217;s too late to incorporate what you need it to support.</p>
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